RuneRebels

General => Rants => Started by: Gh0stPred on July 25, 2014, 09:48:59 am

Title: So then...
Post by: Gh0stPred on July 25, 2014, 09:48:59 am
Before you start reading. Please note this WILL BE A MASSIVE POST... Now

Ok so it's been a while since I have posted on the forums and even played on the server but now is the time for me to say this. The state of RuneRebels has gone to the point of not bothering with anything anymore. No one is on the server, Forums or anything like that. There's been no updates (besides 2.0.12 thx Onur :D) and hardly any staff online besides Onur. In my opinion Rune Rebels is now gone and to be honest shouldn't be bothering with anything anymore unless the Staff and community team up together and sort this shit out.

The reason why It's in the Rants is because this is my opinion on what is going on. I would of placed in the General Section but to be honest I thought that Rants would be a better option.

Note: These are my opinions and if I have offended anyone then please take my sincere apology in advance

If you want Rune Rebels to be placed back into the spotlight then some massive changes needs to be sorted out. First of all we need to advertise our asses off again. Spam on every single forum reguarding RSPS and also every single server. Also if everyone spammed on all the RSPS videos then that might give us a boost. We need to get RuneRebels placed everywhere on what ever forum or server it is. Even post on the main RS website (Which is not a good idea). We need this server to grow and get more people involved with the Server and also the Community

The Second one is the Staff. I'm sorry but everyone besides Onur needs to sort yourselves out and get some stuff down on the server. I know you all have a life to sort out and all that but it seems to me that no staff members besides Onur are doing anything and you know have just given up or resigned on the staff members. We need either the Staff members to get some work down or get new staff members to help code the server more either until the original staff members have more time with the server OR just code it themselves permanently. Please, I know you have stuff to sort out irl but some people just want you to just code and that's it.

The Third one is the Community. Im sorry guys but we aren't doing enough to make the server bigger and better again. Yes I know you guys just want to play and all that but part of making this server popular requires your help as well. Voting and spamming everywhere will get the server more people to join. Also think about it like this. There are 2 servers who do the same thing One being Rune Rebels and the other one say 2006scape.  Rune Rebels has no one online (Sorry but it's true) while 2006scape has a massive community having over 500 people playing and posting. Who is that person going to vote for? 2006scape. If we help the forums and community and server out then the game Rune Rebels will be more popular and more players to have. Also like this game is unique because it's using it's own code and not some crappy one that a 12 year old made. This server has loads of potential and it needs to shine over the other servers.

The Forth one is well us. It's not the community but it's us in general. We have our own lives and have stuff that needs sorting out. Hell I have loads of shit to sort out myself but it's up to us to determin the server and also Rune Rebels. If we just sit around here doing nothing then that's not going to make Rune Rebels better. It's going to make it more worse and I don't want that happening with the game. I love Rune Rebels and I want to keep supporting it reguardless. I will still be on from time to time and all that just seeing what has changed etc but yeah. I will keep trying to support to the server. Yeah I haven't donated yet nor have I done any bugs etc. But still I support it and I will do anything that is needed to get the server running again.

If anyone wants the server to get back into the RSPS scene then we need to get ourselves sorted out and work together as a team, as a community, as a god. We are all gods to the newcomers who will do anything for us. We need to help the server out. We need to spam everywhere. If you guys are willing to do this then please help me by spamming everywhere and helping the community grow and get more players online because without you guys Rune Rebels will be dead and all that. The server is at it's lowest but it's not too late. So common guys. Lets save Rune Rebels!!!!!
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Prayer on July 25, 2014, 07:54:51 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 25, 2014, 09:37:07 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Austin on July 25, 2014, 10:31:33 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.
aaaaanddddd this is why I left :) We've been in this predicament how many times now? I lost count. Every time we get SOME players back and then we release updates for maybe a month or two, and then Ryan dissapears AGAIN. I mean come on... one example i have been using lately with how lazy devs are even for Triple A companies, is that there is a 16 year old kid in highschool that's developing a growing game called unturned. He releases updates EVERY DAY, and he doesn't have any help besides maybe one or two friends. He releases more content in one week than most developers do in one month... In my opinion, he should be a developer for RR LOL
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Onur on July 26, 2014, 04:28:53 am
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.
aaaaanddddd this is why I left :) We've been in this predicament how many times now? I lost count. Every time we get SOME players back and then we release updates for maybe a month or two, and then Ryan dissapears AGAIN. I mean come on... one example i have been using lately with how lazy devs are even for Triple A companies, is that there is a 16 year old kid in highschool that's developing a growing game called unturned. He releases updates EVERY DAY, and he doesn't have any help besides maybe one or two friends. He releases more content in one week than most developers do in one month... In my opinion, he should be a developer for RR LOL
I hate him for not releasing a mac version for unturned yet, :c
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 26, 2014, 07:04:00 am
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.

You ought to take me up on my offer to advertise that I applied for a few months back.

I believe that if more players try out the game on a daily basis, more people would be inclined to continue playing, and if more people are playing, more people will stay after initially checking the game out. Win win.

To address the situation about voting, I know a lot of us play other servers and vote for in game rewards on servers such as UltimateScape and Ikov, however it wouldnt be enough have to spend a week voting for RR. And those of you who only play RR, there's no excuse for why you're not voting, that's just laziness.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 26, 2014, 07:05:08 am
You ought to take me up on my offer to advertise that I applied for a few months back.

I believe that if more players try out the game on a daily basis, more people would be inclined to continue playing, and if more people are playing, more people will stay after initially checking the game out. Win win.

To address the situation about voting, I know a lot of us play other servers and vote for in game rewards on servers such as UltimateScape and Ikov, however it would be easy enough have to spend a week voting for RR. And those of you who only play RR, there's no excuse for why you're not voting, that's just laziness.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 26, 2014, 07:05:53 am
Accidental Repost.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 26, 2014, 10:22:36 am
You ought to take me up on my offer to advertise that I applied for a few months back.

I believe that if more players try out the game on a daily basis, more people would be inclined to continue playing, and if more people are playing, more people will stay after initially checking the game out. Win win.

To address the situation about voting, I know a lot of us play other servers and vote for in game rewards on servers such as UltimateScape and Ikov, however it would be easy enough have to spend a week voting for RR. And those of you who only play RR, there's no excuse for why you're not voting, that's just laziness.

We've tried voting, giving forum rewards for voting, and even paid advertisements. Unfortunately, with stagnant content, people will log on, realize that nothing is complete, and go and find another 2006 remake/rsps. There are plenty of them in the market now, and there is one in particular that has 90% of the stuff people want in a 2006 remake.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Gh0stPred on July 26, 2014, 02:27:09 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.

James. I know a few bits about coding and I can help out if you wanted me to?
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Onur on July 26, 2014, 04:14:09 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.

James. I know a few bits about coding and I can help out if you wanted me to?
No one has access to the sourcecode, but Ryan is working on a public api where everyone can send in plugins and we add those to the game if they're any good :p
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 26, 2014, 04:23:00 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.

James. I know a few bits about coding and I can help out if you wanted me to?
No one has access to the sourcecode, but Ryan is working on a public api where everyone can send in plugins and we add those to the game if they're any good :p

That'll be ready in 6-8 years!

OT: I've tried playing that unturned game a lot lately. I suck at it. Someone should start a server so we could suck together.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Austin on July 26, 2014, 04:45:07 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.
aaaaanddddd this is why I left :) We've been in this predicament how many times now? I lost count. Every time we get SOME players back and then we release updates for maybe a month or two, and then Ryan dissapears AGAIN. I mean come on... one example i have been using lately with how lazy devs are even for Triple A companies, is that there is a 16 year old kid in highschool that's developing a growing game called unturned. He releases updates EVERY DAY, and he doesn't have any help besides maybe one or two friends. He releases more content in one week than most developers do in one month... In my opinion, he should be a developer for RR LOL
I hate him for not releasing a mac version for unturned yet, :c
but he has! http://steamcommunity.com/games/304930/announcements/detail/260399029564554877
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Onur on July 26, 2014, 05:24:42 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother anymore is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.

James. I know a few bits about coding and I can help out if you wanted me to?
No one has access to the sourcecode, but Ryan is working on a public api where everyone can send in plugins and we add those to the game if they're any good :p

That'll be ready in 6-8 years!

OT: I've tried playing that unturned game a lot lately. I suck at it. Someone should start a server so we could suck together.

"Just cleaned my room and am preparing for all night programming session for helix and rr API ;)"
I still have hope, mkay :(
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Brothership on July 26, 2014, 05:50:06 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother so is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.

James. I know a few bits about coding and I can help out if you wanted me to?
No one has access to the sourcecode, but Ryan is working on a public api where everyone can send in plugins and we add those to the game if they're any good :p

That'll be ready in 6-8 years!

OT: I've tried playing that unturned game a lot lately. I suck at it. Someone should start a server so we could suck together.

"Just cleaned my room and am preparing for all night programming session for helix and rr API ;)"
I still have hope, mkay :(
In ryan we trust. Well, in ryan we must trust.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 26, 2014, 09:04:04 pm
Unturned server? ANYONE? Hell, I would even play Jack's unturned server... IF HE HAD ONE
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Onur on July 26, 2014, 10:15:20 pm
Unturned server? ANYONE? Hell, I would even play Jack's unturned server... IF HE HAD ONE
UNTURNED SERVER!
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 26, 2014, 10:18:50 pm
@James

In regard to the server that has 90% completion, are you talking about 2006Revived, as that only popped up a few weeks back and is soaring with interest at the moment, crazy how fast the tides change in this industry haha.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Elevate on July 27, 2014, 05:38:02 am
@James

In regard to the server that has 90% completion, are you talking about 2006Revived, as that only popped up a few weeks back and is soaring with interest at the moment, crazy how fast the tides change in this industry haha.
"Soaring with interest"

There's 4 people online as of right now. Please do explain?
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Brothership on July 27, 2014, 08:49:46 am
@James

In regard to the server that has 90% completion, are you talking about 2006Revived, as that only popped up a few weeks back and is soaring with interest at the moment, crazy how fast the tides change in this industry haha.
"Soaring with interest"

There's 4 people online as of right now. Please do explain?
Just checked 2006revived out. It seems as dead as a rock.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Brothership on July 27, 2014, 09:11:28 am
Unturned server? ANYONE? Hell, I would even play Jack's unturned server... IF HE HAD ONE
UNTURNED SERVER!
Yep thats it. Im making an unturned lets play.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 27, 2014, 01:13:24 pm
@James

In regard to the server that has 90% completion, are you talking about 2006Revived, as that only popped up a few weeks back and is soaring with interest at the moment, crazy how fast the tides change in this industry haha.
"Soaring with interest"

There's 4 people online as of right now. Please do explain?

My point still stands, for a game that was set up weeks ago it makes me chuckle at how its still got the same player base as RuneRebels which has been running for so much longer.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: edub on July 27, 2014, 05:24:03 pm
You make some very good points gh0st. In order to bring runerebels back we need an all around effort. That is why I have been trying to do community events to get people back on and playing again but there's only so much I can do as an individual. That being said I will continue trying to keep this server alive. The main driving force for people to stay motivate and continue playing is for the server to be supported and updated through our developers and staff members.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: buttplug on July 27, 2014, 06:21:18 pm
RuneRebels will never fully recover without Ryan being active again, so if even if we get people here they will end up leaving for things like lack of updates, quests, bosses, agility, and such. It'll be nice growing a community again though, so hopefully that could happen

Yep. The reason why I don't bother so is because I know for a fact I can't do the shit that people want (I.E. Quests, bosses, agility, and of course, such.)

*EDIT* and, all of the staff members are active, minus the most important staff member. I'm on the forums every day (no point in logging into the game, I can do everything that I can do in-game via the forums.)  Even when we do all come back, it'll just be like usual and last three days, lots of hype and people going nuts, then under delivering.

James. I know a few bits about coding and I can help out if you wanted me to?
No one has access to the sourcecode, but Ryan is working on a public api where everyone can send in plugins and we add those to the game if they're any good :p

That'll be ready in 6-8 years!

OT: I've tried playing that unturned game a lot lately. I suck at it. Someone should start a server so we could suck together.

"Just cleaned my room and am preparing for all night programming session for helix and rr API ;)"
I still have hope, mkay :(
In ryan we trust. Well, in ryan we must trust.

moar liek in Ryan we rust

amirite guyz
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: edub on July 27, 2014, 06:27:36 pm
moar liek in Ryan we rust

amirite guyz

In Ryan we turn to dust!
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Elevate on July 27, 2014, 09:54:53 pm
2006revived has been around for longer then a couple of weeks. Just saying.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 28, 2014, 09:21:57 am
2006revived has been around for longer then a couple of weeks. Just saying.

I find it funny how you always have to be right, it's damn annoying, it's been up like 2 months I believe which is nothing, so clearly you should be able to understand my point without being smart about it.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Elevate on July 28, 2014, 10:10:48 am
I find it funny how you always have to be right, it's damn annoying, it's been up like 2 months I believe which is nothing, so clearly you should be able to understand my point without being smart about it.
March. Was released for public access in March, that's just from looking at the forums. So it's been at least 4 months. I don't call 4 months a "couple of weeks". No I'm not able to understand what you're saying.

If by me informing you that the server has been out for longer annoys you then I really do feel for you. If you get annoyed that easily then the Internet is not the place for you. For everyone else; My previous replies were aimed to prove that 2006 servers are no longer the "in thing".
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 28, 2014, 02:04:27 pm
I find it funny how you always have to be right, it's damn annoying, it's been up like 2 months I believe which is nothing, so clearly you should be able to understand my point without being smart about it.
March. Was released for public access in March, that's just from looking at the forums. So it's been at least 4 months. I don't call 4 months a "couple of weeks". No I'm not able to understand what you're saying.

If by me informing you that the server has been out for longer annoys you then I really do feel for you. If you get annoyed that easily then the Internet is not the place for you. For everyone else; My previous replies were aimed to prove that 2006 servers are no longer the "in thing".

I 100% agree that 2006 is no longer popular, I've previously said this numerous times.

What I'm telling you is (and I do not understand how you fail to grasp this) is that 2006 Revived is a recent edition to the 2006 scene (regardless of how recent it is, it's a hell of a lot newer than RR) thus it is surprising how a NEW server can generate as much attention as one that's been going strong for 2 years (I believe, again, regardless of my time estimations it is obvious what I'm getting at).

As to "the internet not being the place for me", I have no problem with people sharing their arguments on these forums what-so-ever, even if I disagree with them, what I do have a minor problem with is when despite giving my best attempt to explain to you what I meant numerous times, you still fail to see what I'm saying and tend to take note of the minor errors rather than seeing the bigger picture.

I've forgotten who actually said this quote, but a man made a point saying something along the lines of;

"The problem with many people is that they listen with intent to reply, not to learn or understand."
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: buttplug on July 28, 2014, 03:21:04 pm
This isn't your personal flame war thread, ZzReVeNg3zZ. He corrected a simple error you made. If you have a problem with that, then its YOUR problem.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 28, 2014, 03:25:25 pm
This isn't your personal flame war thread, ZzReVeNg3zZ. He corrected an error you made. If you have a problem with that, then its YOUR problem.

Likewise, however if you have a problem with what I've got to say then that's YOUR problem. I wasn't addressing you and never intended to.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: buttplug on July 28, 2014, 03:33:48 pm
This isn't your personal flame war thread, ZzReVeNg3zZ. He corrected an error you made. If you have a problem with that, then its YOUR problem.

Likewise, however if you have a problem with what I've got to say then that's YOUR problem. I wasn't addressing you and never intended to.

No, you derailing the thread is YOUR problem. You made a personal attack on another person simply for pointing out an error YOU made. This isn't your diary. I'm not gonna sit here and continue to feed into your bad habit. I've said what needs to be said, lets hope you listen with the intent of learning and not just to reply.

P.S. I'm sorry for being a dick about it
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 28, 2014, 03:38:37 pm
This isn't your personal flame war thread, ZzReVeNg3zZ. He corrected an error you made. If you have a problem with that, then its YOUR problem.

Likewise, however if you have a problem with what I've got to say then that's YOUR problem. I wasn't addressing you and never intended to.

No, you derailing the thread is YOUR problem. You made a personal attack on another person simply for pointing out an error YOU made. This isn't your diary. I'm not gonna sit here and continue to feed into your bad habit. I've said what needs to be said, lets hope you listen with the intent of learning and not just to reply.

P.S. I'm sorry for being a dick about it

Just saying that if you aren't happy about what I posted then you shouldn't of got involved because now it's escalated.

I have absolutely no problem with you what-so-ever, and you're theory of listening to learn and not just to reply is the whole argument I was establishing in the first place.

P.S I don't take it personally haha.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Elevate on July 28, 2014, 10:01:14 pm
Just saying that if you aren't happy about what I posted then you shouldn't of got involved because now it's escalated.
This is rich considering what you've fallen victim of no more than 1 page ago.

I 100% agree that 2006 is no longer popular, I've previously said this numerous times.
I'm yet to see where you've said this numerous times. Considering one of your replies were pretty much saying the complete opposite, trying to inform people that there's another 06 server "Soaring" with interest.


What I'm telling you is (and I do not understand how you fail to grasp this) is that 2006 Revived is a recent edition to the 2006 scene (regardless of how recent it is, it's a hell of a lot newer than RR) thus it is surprising how a NEW server can generate as much attention as one that's been going strong for 2 years (I believe, again, regardless of my time estimations it is obvious what I'm getting at).
Recent isn't 5 months, at the least. They're a newer server, not new. It's not surprising that a newer server has an equal amount of players. They have good updates, more complete server than ours, most probably better staff/players who are active. Being a server that is in fact old, that's not a good thing when you're thirsty for players. (and I do not understand how you fail to grasp this)


As to "the internet not being the place for me", I have no problem with people sharing their arguments on these forums what-so-ever, even if I disagree with them, what I do have a minor problem with is when despite giving my best attempt to explain to you what I meant numerous times, you still fail to see what I'm saying and tend to take note of the minor errors rather than seeing the bigger picture.
So at first you're saying I was sharing an argument but then you change it up and insist that I'm not seeing what you're saying. I completely see what you're saying and it was wrong, hence why i corrected it to make it accurate. So if i may add this, you have a problem with being wrong. You've taken what I said way to personally, all I did was correct a part in your post and you've turned into a sook.

I've forgotten who actually said this quote, but a man made a point saying something along the lines of;
"The problem with many people is that they listen with intent to reply, not to learn or understand."
This isn't a quote, but it's pretty relevant.
"When you're wrong don't just cry and start a fight"

As Buttplug said, this didn't need to start. You didn't have to come back and start flaming just because I corrected something you said, and just from that you've turned the topic into something it wasn't intended to be.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Recoil on July 29, 2014, 12:37:20 am
Advertising means nothing, it's all about the owners being inactive and not adding anything, same reason WS died. James is really the only one who's made a consistent effort to be fair and active on both forums. Bit ridiculous and inexcusable if you ask me.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 29, 2014, 01:02:37 am
Now it looks to me like you're blowing things completely out of proportion by taking the time to analyse every paragraph I've written, maybe its because you've got too much time on your hands, who knows.

I figured I'd take the time to give it a go using your style of discussion, I decided I'd  share with you what you seem to be getting wrong by breaking it down bit by bit, only because your general understanding is at a dangerously low level.

Unable to quote as I'm on a mobile device, so bare with me.

Let's begin.

"They're a newer server, not new."

From this we can see that you're agreeing with me, which is funny because it hasn't seemed like it. New is new at the end of the day, an iPhone that's 3 months old isn't brand new, but it's NEWER than the previous model, so it's simply new..

Looking at it with this logic, 2006Revived is new compared to RuneRebels (what I've been saying all along).

"It's not surprising that a newer server has an equal amount of players.
They have good updates, more complete server than ours, most
probably better staff/players who are active."

This is what I was getting at when I mentioned how it's funny how the tides change, once a strong part of the RSPS community is now only level with a server that came about recently, that's how mediocre things are becoming, you said it yourself "more complete server than ours" which I feel strange considering the duration of time its been up compared to RR.
 
"This is rich considering what you've fallen victim of no more than 1
page ago."

Am I wrong in thinking that you were the one who responded to my post in the first place?

"I'm yet to see where you've said this numerous times."

Clearly you don't pay much attention to any of my other posts located on various different threads, which I understand to be honest because I pay no attention to your posts either, but just in case you feel like having a look more specifically, all you have to do is look at previous posts on my profile, simple enough.

"So at first you're saying I was sharing an argument but then you
change it up and insist that I'm not seeing what you're saying. I
completely see what you're saying and it was wrong, hence why i
corrected it to make it accurate."

Completely incorrect, you've missed my entire point from the first minute you read it, which is why for some strange reason you pass it off as wrong. It is not specific about times and dates, it is about the sheer fact that;

A) A much, much new(er) *put the "er" in for you to understand better* server has managed to generate the same amount of interest as this one.

B) And you said it yourself, even a server put online in March already has much more content than this one.

"So if i may add this, you have a problem with being wrong. You've taken what I said way to personally, all I did was correct a part in your post and you've turned into a sook."

Although I may of reacted inappropriately, I have no problem being wrong what-so-ever, I've already agreed that my time estimations were wrong, what irritated me was that you focussed on the minor problems of what I was saying instead of taking the time to think about what I meant in t first place.

"When you're wrong don't just cry and start a fight."

That's an interesting phrase, wise words, yet I've accepted my errors and you still fail to interpret what we're even discussing.

And finally,

"As Buttplug said, this didn't need to start. You didn't have to come
back and start flaming just because I corrected something you said,
and just from that you've turned the topic into something it wasn't
intended to be."

I think you're absolutely right, this didn't need to start, however it isn't exactly diffusing the situation for you to come and write an essay or some kind of synopsis with a more detailed analysis than an A* English exam.

And the harm is already done to be honest, for those of you reading this I am sorry that this fuss has occurred, this is legitimately the first time I've ever argued with someone on the RuneRebels forums, and I also intend it to be the last.

I'm also apologising on behalf of Elevate, because for some reason I fail to see the possibility of him ever doing so.





Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 29, 2014, 01:09:03 am
Advertising means nothing, it's all about the owners being inactive and not adding anything, same reason WS died. James is really the only one who's made a consistent effort to be fair and active on both forums. Bit ridiculous and inexcusable if you ask me.

And shortly both games! I would love to see Worldscape be itself again. I miss it more than anything.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Elevate on July 29, 2014, 10:06:59 am
Now it looks to me like you're blowing things completely out of proportion by taking the time to analyse every paragraph I've written, maybe its because you've got too much time on your hands, who knows.
You've lost the argument before it's even started. A statement followed directly by a hypocritical course of actions. I commend you.

"They're a newer server, not new."

From this we can see that you're agreeing with me, which is funny because it hasn't seemed like it. New is new at the end of the day, an iPhone that's 3 months old isn't brand new, but it's NEWER than the previous model, so it's simply new..

Looking at it with this logic, 2006Revived is new compared to RuneRebels (what I've been saying all along).
I am in no way, shape, or form agreeing with what you're saying. We've somewhere along the lines forgot that you said this server is WEEKS old and "Soaring" with interest. Neither of them are true, not even in the slightest. I corrected that and now look where you're standing, trying to defend yourself with using iPhones.

"It's not surprising that a newer server has an equal amount of players.
They have good updates, more complete server than ours, most
probably better staff/players who are active."

This is what I was getting at when I mentioned how it's funny how the tides change, once a strong part of the RSPS community is now only level with a server that came about recently, that's how mediocre things are becoming, you said it yourself "more complete server than ours" which I feel strange considering the duration of time its been up compared to RR.
I didn't disagree that this server has turned to shit. We stand eye to eye on that one.

"This is rich considering what you've fallen victim of no more than 1
page ago."

Am I wrong in thinking that you were the one who responded to my post in the first place?
Meaning if you weren't happy with what I posted, in the first place, then you shouldn't have replied. Exact words dripping out of your mouth towards another member.

"I'm yet to see where you've said this numerous times."

Clearly you don't pay much attention to any of my other posts located on various different threads, which I understand to be honest because I pay no attention to your posts either, but just in case you feel like having a look more specifically, all you have to do is look at previous posts on my profile, simple enough.
Please link me when you've said it numerous times. Please & thank-you. I fail to see where you've said it, especially numerous times.

"So at first you're saying I was sharing an argument but then you
change it up and insist that I'm not seeing what you're saying. I
completely see what you're saying and it was wrong, hence why i
corrected it to make it accurate."

A) A much, much new(er) *put the "er" in for you to understand better* server has managed to generate the same amount of interest as this one.
Now hold on, if it's "generating the same amount of interest as this one", does that mean that Runerebels is also "Soaring with interest"?

B) And you said it yourself, even a server put online in March already has much more content than this one.
Haven't dissagree'd on this once don't see why you've found it relevant not once but twice to add this.


"So if i may add this, you have a problem with being wrong. You've taken what I said way to personally, all I did was correct a part in your post and you've turned into a sook."

Although I may of reacted inappropriately, I have no problem being wrong what-so-ever, I've already agreed that my time estimations were wrong, what irritated me was that you focussed on the minor problems of what I was saying instead of taking the time to think about what I meant in t first place.
Once again, you're assuming that I didn't comprehend/understand what you originally said. I understood very well thank you for your worry, but you were also wrong and the post was not correct. I corrected you. There was no need for follow up dilemmas because you were "annoyed" at being corrected.


"When you're wrong don't just cry and start a fight."

That's an interesting phrase, wise words, yet I've accepted my errors and you still fail to interpret what we're even discussing.
Above ^

"As Buttplug said, this didn't need to start. You didn't have to come
back and start flaming just because I corrected something you said,
and just from that you've turned the topic into something it wasn't
intended to be."

I think you're absolutely right, this didn't need to start, however it isn't exactly diffusing the situation for you to come and write an essay or some kind of synopsis with a more detailed analysis than an A* English exam.

And the harm is already done to be honest, for those of you reading this I am sorry that this fuss has occurred, this is legitimately the first time I've ever argued with someone on the RuneRebels forums, and I also intend it to be the last.

I'm also apologising on behalf of Elevate, because for some reason I fail to see the possibility of him ever doing so.
You wanted a flame war, you got one. Your jimmies were rustled due to being corrected. It's not a big deal being corrected, you'll be corrected a million times before you die as will I. Thank you for the feed back on my essay, yours wasn't too bad. 4/10 for length (Marked down due to lack of quotes) 1/10 for content though.

I don't think you need to apologise, we've created more entertainment for the community than they'd ever get from the server these days. Also don't apologise for me ever again, I'm capable of presenting my own apologies if i deem necessary. Neither of us need to apologise in this situation.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 29, 2014, 10:44:19 am
"Once again, you're assuming that I didn't comprehend/understand what you originally said. I understood very well thank you for your worry, but you were also wrong and the post was not correct. I corrected you."

I honestly wish you told me you understood a page ago, because that is the only reason I got a stick up my ass. I'm going to leave it anyway because it's already ruined the thread enough, and even if I wanted to I dont have time to constantly post 1000 word explanations for what I'm saying haha.

Just so you know I never wanted a flame war, but you're right this probably was a decent source of entertainment for the others as the game itself right now is dead.

Anyways, no hard feelings, nothing personal.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Brothership on July 29, 2014, 11:28:27 am
I need more popcorn. This thread made the forums a bit more alive again. Its always nice seeing a new post once every hour. Thanks for the debate, it made my life a tad more entertaining.

Now lets get back on topic (even if i have completely forgot it under your extremely entertaining discussion) shall we?
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 29, 2014, 11:54:37 am
I need more popcorn. This thread made the forums a bit more alive again. Its always nice seeing a new post once every hour. Thanks for the debate, it made my life a tad more entertaining.

Now lets get back on topic (even if i have completely forgot it under your extremely entertaining discussion) shall we?

I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Brothership on July 29, 2014, 04:04:00 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Gh0stPred on July 29, 2014, 04:08:47 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.

Well why don't we make Onur owner till Ryan can do shit?
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 29, 2014, 05:32:54 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.

Well why don't we make Onur owner till Ryan can do shit?

That would not solve anything. Making him an owner gives him no more priveledges than a developer. I know it from experience.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 29, 2014, 05:51:10 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.

Well why don't we make Onur owner till Ryan can do shit?

That would not solve anything. Making him an owner gives him no more priveledges than a developer. I know it from experience.

What are the specific things we're waiting on Ryan for then? Because if owner is pretty much the same as developer what is it that people keep mentioning Ryan has to do?
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Brothership on July 29, 2014, 06:04:52 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.

Well why don't we make Onur owner till Ryan can do shit?

That would not solve anything. Making him an owner gives him no more priveledges than a developer. I know it from experience.

What are the specific things we're waiting on Ryan for then? Because if owner is pretty much the same as developer what is it that people keep mentioning Ryan has to do?
Ryan is the only one with the source code, and of what ive understand, hes the only one that can do big things in the game. The devs can only add small things like npcs and drops (please right me if im wrong, im not totally sure). So we need ryan to work on the project or for ryan to give the code to some of the other owners and devs. But if i dont remember this wrong, no one else than ryan can code in his special way, as its like his form of handwriting (again right me if im wrong).
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 29, 2014, 06:37:18 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.

Well why don't we make Onur owner till Ryan can do shit?

That would not solve anything. Making him an owner gives him no more priveledges than a developer. I know it from experience.

What are the specific things we're waiting on Ryan for then? Because if owner is pretty much the same as developer what is it that people keep mentioning Ryan has to do?
Ryan is the only one with the source code, and of what ive understand, hes the only one that can do big things in the game. The devs can only add small things like npcs and drops (please right me if im wrong, im not totally sure). So we need ryan to work on the project or for ryan to give the code to some of the other owners and devs. But if i dont remember this wrong, no one else than ryan can code in his special way, as its like his form of handwriting (again right me if im wrong).

A source code is a source code dude, as far as I'm aware there's no personal style its just general coding like.

I'm guessing its a lack of trust, as the source code is essentially RuneRebels itself, a rogue staff member could completely steal it.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 29, 2014, 07:23:08 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.

Well why don't we make Onur owner till Ryan can do shit?

That would not solve anything. Making him an owner gives him no more priveledges than a developer. I know it from experience.

What are the specific things we're waiting on Ryan for then? Because if owner is pretty much the same as developer what is it that people keep mentioning Ryan has to do?
Ryan is the only one with the source code, and of what ive understand, hes the only one that can do big things in the game. The devs can only add small things like npcs and drops (please right me if im wrong, im not totally sure). So we need ryan to work on the project or for ryan to give the code to some of the other owners and devs. But if i dont remember this wrong, no one else than ryan can code in his special way, as its like his form of handwriting (again right me if im wrong).

A source code is a source code dude, as far as I'm aware there's no personal style its just general coding like.

I'm guessing its a lack of trust, as the source code is essentially RuneRebels itself, a rogue staff member could completely steal it.

WRAWNG. Source Code completely varies from source to source, as long as the sources aren't leached. Normally you'd see .class files, RR does not have those.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Onur on July 29, 2014, 07:55:37 pm
I dont like saying it but it's the truth, Ryan needs to sort himself out or hire someone to do his job for him in the time being.
I 100% agree on this. Ryan is literally the only thing stopping runerebels right now.

Well why don't we make Onur owner till Ryan can do shit?

That would not solve anything. Making him an owner gives him no more priveledges than a developer. I know it from experience.

What are the specific things we're waiting on Ryan for then? Because if owner is pretty much the same as developer what is it that people keep mentioning Ryan has to do?
Ryan is the only one who has access to the source code since it's his, so devs and owners are limited in what they do.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: The Vanguard on July 29, 2014, 08:13:32 pm
Why does everything happen while I am working?
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: edub on July 29, 2014, 08:50:56 pm
Ryan was in the process of getting plugins out so the other devs can be able to work on more aspects of the game.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Elevate on July 29, 2014, 09:15:09 pm
I don't see any other way around it. We could all go to Worldscape for the time being? There's no missing content, considering it's not a re-make :P
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 29, 2014, 10:11:16 pm
I don't see any other way around it. We could all go to Worldscape for the time being? There's no missing content, considering it's not a re-make :P

SOUNDS GOOD 2 ME
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: ZzReVeNg3zZ on July 29, 2014, 10:47:25 pm
I don't see any other way around it. We could all go to Worldscape for the time being? There's no missing content, considering it's not a re-make :P

SOUNDS GOOD 2 ME

Is the AllGoFree Minecraft server still up? :3
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on July 30, 2014, 01:34:33 am
I don't see any other way around it. We could all go to Worldscape for the time being? There's no missing content, considering it's not a re-make :P

SOUNDS GOOD 2 ME

Is the AllGoFree Minecraft server still up? :3

I don't think so, haven't played MC in like 4eva
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Elevate on July 30, 2014, 08:18:00 am
Giving the source code to someone else to code would be a good idea if the code itself wasn't written in Chinese-Latin. Apparently it's really hard to understand.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Stuart on August 10, 2014, 10:07:34 pm
Giving the source code to someone else to code would be a good idea if the code itself wasn't written in Chinese-Latin. Apparently it's really hard to understand.
I've seen snippets of the runerebels source code, its pretty understandable.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: 004 on August 11, 2014, 07:36:56 pm
@James

In regard to the server that has 90% completion, are you talking about 2006Revived, as that only popped up a few weeks back and is soaring with interest at the moment, crazy how fast the tides change in this industry haha.
"Soaring with interest"

There's 4 people online as of right now. Please do explain?
Just checked 2006revived out. It seems as dead as a rock.
Well the only reason Revived is dead is because one of our staff members decided to kick me and everyone else off the team and then let the server die shortly after.. :-\ I'm just glad that can't happen to RR.

EDIT: Sorry for gravedigging but I felt like saying that since a lot of people think we just let it die and that's not true at all..
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: Recoil on August 12, 2014, 12:31:48 am
Saying "a source code is a source code" is ludicrous. There's literally a million ways you could go about doing the most simple tasks. That's why it can be so hard to proofread someone else's code.
Title: Re: So then...
Post by: James on August 15, 2014, 10:51:11 pm
Giving the source code to someone else to code would be a good idea if the code itself wasn't written in Chinese-Latin. Apparently it's really hard to understand.
I've seen snippets of the runerebels source code, its pretty understandable.

The code itself is understandable.

Deciding what goes in what oddly named plugin, and which plugins to actually edit to make what you want work, is another story.

Like, for example, NPC spawns are not located in the NPC spawn plugin, they are located in each individual area (ie rock crabs in the relleka plugin.)

Also, banana bread.