RuneRebels
General => General => Started by: vault on February 11, 2013, 10:18:26 am
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Well, just vote, don't want to influence any1 by this text ;)
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
you should explain those reasons then ;)
For me multi logging is a thing that demotivates me a lot. I'm training hard to stay one of the best, but still I dont rly have a chance vs multi loggers... Multi logging isnt rly an option for me, since i kinda "grew up" with it as being a cheaty thing to do... It just feels wrong now.
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
you should explain those reasons then ;)
For me multi logging is a thing that demotivates me a lot. I'm training hard to stay one of the best, but still I dont rly have a chance vs multi loggers... Multi logging isnt rly an option for me, since i kinda "grew up" with it as being a cheaty thing to do... It just feels wrong now.
I always did it. I feel it helps you rise to the top. If one can't run two clients, then thats their problem.
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Why does everyone always find something to complain about :o (I'm not blaming anyone for complaining, I'm just observing that people complain about multilogging) . Let's just be happy we have a great community, a great staff, bug fixes being released near daily and quests coming soon!
I personally don't mind multiloggers, I did it for a while, but got annoyed by having to pay attention to 2 accounts.
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
you should explain those reasons then ;)
For me multi logging is a thing that demotivates me a lot. I'm training hard to stay one of the best, but still I dont rly have a chance vs multi loggers... Multi logging isnt rly an option for me, since i kinda "grew up" with it as being a cheaty thing to do... It just feels wrong now.
I always did it. I feel it helps you rise to the top. If one can't run two clients, then thats their problem.
1) that sounds kinda anti-social
2) I can run more than 1 but it just feels wrong as i said
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Why does everyone always find something to complain about :o (I'm not blaming anyone for complaining, I'm just observing that people complain about multilogging) . Let's just be happy we have a great community, a great staff, bug fixes being released near daily and quests coming soon!
I personally don't mind multiloggers, I did it for a while, but got annoyed by having to pay attention to 2 accounts.
I think it's better to complain than to be silent and play a game which you dont rly enjoy. (and quit eventually)
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I voted wrong, But here is my opinion: I think multi-logging is not a problem atm, but In a future it should be banned :S
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It helps the economy. Having two accounts gets more items circulating in the eco.
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It helps the economy. Having two accounts gets more items circulating in the eco.
Money accumulation gonna be a problem... Only those who multi log gonna be rich, for those who play the game without multi logging it is hard to become rich.
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What if 2 people want to play RR in a single household? This is why Multi Logging will always be allowed on a successful Runescape private server.
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What if 2 people want to play RR in a single household? This is why Multi Logging will always be allowed on a successful Runescape private server.
They are allowed to log in at the same time ofc. Don't get your argument there soz.
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What if 2 people want to play RR in a single household? This is why Multi Logging will always be allowed on a successful Runescape private server.
That would be allowed.
It helps the economy. Having two accounts gets more items circulating in the eco.
Money accumulation gonna be a problem... Only those who multi log gonna be rich, for those who play the game without multi logging it is hard to become rich.
Then go ahead and multi log. :P You have the chance to be rich
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What if 2 people want to play RR in a single household? This is why Multi Logging will always be allowed on a successful Runescape private server.
That would be allowed.
It helps the economy. Having two accounts gets more items circulating in the eco.
Money accumulation gonna be a problem... Only those who multi log gonna be rich, for those who play the game without multi logging it is hard to become rich.
Then go ahead and multi log. :P You have the chance to be rich
It's like doping would be allowed suddenly. I wouldn't start with it because it feels wrong.
EDIT: This is also a 2006 runescape remake, and I would rly like if also the rules would be as they used to be back in 2006.
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No to multilogging. ;)
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Well if you make Multi Logging not allowed then 2 people with the same IP can't be logged in? meaning 2 people in the same household can't play RR.
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Well if you make Multi Logging not allowed then 2 people with the same IP can't be logged in?
Those ppl can tell the mods that they are living in the same household.
Ofc there will allways be ppl abusing rules, but im sure if there is a rule that bans multilogging, that at least 50-80% of those who multi log right now will stop with it.
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I see nothing wrong with multilogging as long as they aren't botting it. They are still doing hardwork, and if not that they are doing double the hardwork at once...
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I see nothing wrong with multilogging as long as they aren't botting it. They are still doing hardwork, and if not that they are doing double the hardwork at once...
you can easily afk wc or fish on 5 accs, there is no real hard work lol
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I voted wrong, But here is my opinion: I think multi-logging is not a problem atm, but In a future it should be banned :S
you can edit your vote
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Not fair for people who play on only one account, its so easy to make money if you multi-logg.
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I see nothing wrong with multilogging as long as they aren't botting it. They are still doing hardwork, and if not that they are doing double the hardwork at once...
you can easily afk wc or fish on 5 accs, there is no real hard work lol
Your afking either way. Whether its on one account separately or 5 accounts all together
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I see nothing wrong with multilogging as long as they aren't botting it. They are still doing hardwork, and if not that they are doing double the hardwork at once...
you can easily afk wc or fish on 5 accs, there is no real hard work lol
Your afking either way. Whether its on one account separately or 5 accounts all together
Is this an argument for banning or allowing multi logging? lol
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I see nothing wrong with multilogging as long as they aren't botting it. They are still doing hardwork, and if not that they are doing double the hardwork at once...
you can easily afk wc or fish on 5 accs, there is no real hard work lol
Your afking either way. Whether its on one account separately or 5 accounts all together
Is this an argument for banning or allowing multi logging? lol
multilogging... i never said anything about banning and this isn't a arguement... its a discussion
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Yes to it -- people will do it whether allowed or not, its upto one individuals ability if they can manage the accounts, only really a problem if someone bots like 20 accounts at once, but is able to get away with it via responding to mods
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Dunno how significant the results are cause multi loggers probably also voted with more than 1 acc lol
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Vault, how can you prove someone is multi logging without having a brother or sister? you cant, so it cant be bannable because theres no 100% way of proving someone is multi logging on there same comp.
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I'm against it but currently doing it since it's allowed.
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I'm against it but currently doing it since it's allowed.
if you were against it you wouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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I'm against it but currently doing it since it's allowed.
thx, that's the right awnser to skillers argument ;)
+ there will also be those players who are scared of becomming banned and therefore will not multi log..
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I don't have a problem with it, as long as it doesn't get out of hand with like 5 accounts.
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Nah, I don't support Multi-logging.
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atm a lot of multiloggers r botting rune shops etc.... i hate when people bot so im against multiloggers if they bot. so i voted against since a lot do bot. sorry to anyone who doesn't bot.
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Banned.
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It really depends, i have mixed feelings on it. If someone is trying to trade between accounts, thats cool, but if someone is botting, im against it
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It really depends, i have mixed feelings on it. If someone is trying to trade between accounts, thats cool, but if someone is botting, im against it
Many people do it and bot though... therefore i'm against it. Which is unfortunate for multiloggers who don't bot such as my partner.
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I don't have a problem with it, as long as it doesn't get out of hand with like 5 accounts.
it get's pretty difficult after 3, I tried using 4 accounts, and basically fried my brain, plus it's not fun at all
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2 is my max
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Before we know it people will have like 5 clients running
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I'm completely against multi-logging for the following reasons:
- It gives an unfair advantages to those who do it. (thereby the only possible way to play the game is to have multiple accounts that afk)
- It makes it very easy for people to gold farm and will ruin the economy as a result.
- It will encourage transfering between accounts which is against the rules.
- Runescape doesn't permit multiple logins simulatenously.
That being said people obviously need to connect from the same IP so that they can play with other individuals in their household...
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atm a lot of multiloggers r botting rune shops etc.... i hate when people bot so im against multiloggers if they bot. so i voted against since a lot do bot. sorry to anyone who doesn't bot.
Go and try to find a client bot for runerebels or a simba/S.M.A.R.T..
BTW in RS, you are allowed to mulit-login as long as your account don't interact together, just sayin
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atm a lot of multiloggers r botting rune shops etc.... i hate when people bot so im against multiloggers if they bot. so i voted against since a lot do bot. sorry to anyone who doesn't bot.
Go and try to find a client bot for runerebels or a simba/S.M.A.R.T..
BTW in RS, you are allowed to mulit-login as long as your account don't interact together, just sayin
That is a new rule which did not exist in 2006
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EDIT: soz for double post..
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Rules from early 2007, look at the number 8
http://runescape.salmoneus.net/tips/runescape-rules-and-reporting-rule-breakers.html
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Rules from early 2007, look at the number 8
http://runescape.salmoneus.net/tips/runescape-rules-and-reporting-rule-breakers.html
Ok sorry, i was not aware that it was allowed back then.
But still interacting wasnt allowed, which is the thing that annoys me :S
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I Disagree strongly with multi logging, it devalues some skills.
"well if you can't beat 'em join 'em"
^and this is just dumb, its how runescape evolved into the trash it is today.
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Rules from early 2007, look at the number 8
http://runescape.salmoneus.net/tips/runescape-rules-and-reporting-rule-breakers.html
Ok sorry, i was not aware that it was allowed back then.
But still interacting wasnt allowed, which is the thing that annoys me :S
I fully understand that. I used to multi-login at first to get some money for my main, but I find that it just slow down you main account progess and it isn't worth it.
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Multilogging will really help the economy because at the moment with the smaller player base we have, everything has a much higher price because of supply and demand. If people were gathering resources on multilogged accounts we would see a wonderful increase in items and resources. Multilogging should be allowed...at least for now.
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Multilogging will really help the economy because at the moment with the smaller player base we have, everything has a much higher price because of supply and demand. If people were gathering resources on multilogged accounts we would see a wonderful increase in items and resources. Multilogging should be allowed...at least for now.
An increase of items and resources yes, but for that one person that's planning on using them likely and gain an advantage over legit skills don't you think?
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I'm iffy on this. I don't particularly like it, but I see no harm in someone trading things between their accounts normally. but the rcers with 5 mules are... way too much.
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I'm iffy on this. I don't particularly like it, but I see no harm in someone trading things between their accounts normally. but the rcers with 5 mules are... way too much.
There is a harm for those who dont multi log.
Imagine you are a wcer who cuts yew logs. If there are more ppl multi logging and wc with their 2nd/3rd accs there will be more yew logs in the game -> higher supply of yew logs -> lower price of yew logs -> you earn less if you dont multi log.
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I think the admins should stop it if ppl get followed by there other accounts for nature running...
Doesn't any admin wanna comment on this?
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Multi-logging is a terrible idea to allow in the server. It hurts the economy immensely, lowing demand of items while at the same time increasing supply beyond need. Most players would rather have a mule account gather resources for their main account than go and buy it from other players, meaning that the game will take a huge sink in popularity for skillers. It will result in many usernames that were desirable to new players being taken up so that a player can have another 28 inventory spaces or another mindless drone fisherman.
It will hurt the great community we currently have. Players will be unable to tell who is a real player and who is just another slave account. Players will begin to become anti-social, depending on their other accounts rather than real players or themselves. You will lose players who disagree with multi-logging, and with them, potential donators that help the server. Those who already have helped by donating to the server may feel betrayed by such a controversial move.
Once and if the server begins to pick up more popularity with multi-logging allowed, the strain on the servers will increase. And with every player who is a potential donator now taking up multiple server slots instead of a single one, much more cash will be coming out of the developer's pocket to host the servers. Not to mention that the increased player count will attract more attention from Jagex and put the server more at risk of being shut down.
You may argue that if a player doesn't like multi-logging, then just don't do it. But how can we not? If we don't start multi-logging, the ones who do will soon be far ahead of us, constantly damaging the economy and hindering our ability to catch up to them. We may be able to afford to not multi-log for a while, but eventually it will come to a point for us to either pack up and leave the server or submit to the pressure.
Worst of all, allowing multi-logging will ruin the nostalgic feel of the game and RuneRebels will not be a true 2006 remake, and even your title will become false advertisement. If it is going to be kept, custom items and game mechanics might as well be added.
To the development team, all I can say is, I'm surprised at you. :-\
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Multi-logging is a terrible idea to allow in the server. It hurts the economy immensely, lowing demand of items while at the same time increasing supply beyond need. Most players would rather have a mule account gather resources for their main account than go and buy it from other players, meaning that the game will take a huge sink in popularity for skillers. It will result in many usernames that were desirable to new players being taken up so that a player can have another 28 inventory spaces or another mindless drone fisherman.
It will hurt the great community we currently have. Players will be unable to tell who is a real player and who is just another slave account. Players will begin to become anti-social, depending on their other accounts rather than real players or themselves. You will lose players who disagree with multi-logging, and with them, potential donators that help the server. Those who already have helped by donating to the server may feel betrayed by such a controversial move.
Once and if the server begins to pick up more popularity with multi-logging allowed, the strain on the servers will increase. And with every player who is a potential donator now taking up multiple server slots instead of a single one, much more cash will be coming out of the developer's pocket to host the servers. Not to mention that the increased player count will attract more attention from Jagex and put the server more at risk of being shut down.
You may argue that if a player doesn't like multi-logging, then just don't do it. But how can we not? If we don't start multi-logging, the ones who do will soon be far ahead of us, constantly damaging the economy and hindering our ability to catch up to them. We may be able to afford to not multi-log for a while, but eventually it will come to a point for us to either pack up and leave the server or submit to the pressure.
Worst of all, allowing multi-logging will ruin the nostalgic feel of the game and RuneRebels will not be a true 2006 remake, and even your title will become false advertisement. If it is going to be kept, custom items and game mechanics might as well be added.
To the development team, all I can say is, I'm surprised at you. :-\
That sums up my feelings when i see so many lvl 3s mining ess for their mains. Nice text.
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What if 2 people want to play RR in a single household? This is why Multi Logging will always be allowed on a successful Runescape private server.
Well, in my honest opinion the best way to tackle that issue is to soft trace a multi logging IP to see what the MAC addresses are of the users. That way, you can immediately tell if the accounts are from the same computer, or separate computers. This could be done for those that apparently are multi-logging and allow reasons to keep records of similar patterns of those separate MAC address sources.
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Multi-logging is a terrible idea to allow in the server. It hurts the economy immensely, lowing demand of items while at the same time increasing supply beyond need. Most players would rather have a mule account gather resources for their main account than go and buy it from other players, meaning that the game will take a huge sink in popularity for skillers. It will result in many usernames that were desirable to new players being taken up so that a player can have another 28 inventory spaces or another mindless drone fisherman.
It will hurt the great community we currently have. Players will be unable to tell who is a real player and who is just another slave account. Players will begin to become anti-social, depending on their other accounts rather than real players or themselves. You will lose players who disagree with multi-logging, and with them, potential donators that help the server. Those who already have helped by donating to the server may feel betrayed by such a controversial move.
Once and if the server begins to pick up more popularity with multi-logging allowed, the strain on the servers will increase. And with every player who is a potential donator now taking up multiple server slots instead of a single one, much more cash will be coming out of the developer's pocket to host the servers. Not to mention that the increased player count will attract more attention from Jagex and put the server more at risk of being shut down.
You may argue that if a player doesn't like multi-logging, then just don't do it. But how can we not? If we don't start multi-logging, the ones who do will soon be far ahead of us, constantly damaging the economy and hindering our ability to catch up to them. We may be able to afford to not multi-log for a while, but eventually it will come to a point for us to either pack up and leave the server or submit to the pressure.
Worst of all, allowing multi-logging will ruin the nostalgic feel of the game and RuneRebels will not be a true 2006 remake, and even your title will become false advertisement. If it is going to be kept, custom items and game mechanics might as well be added.
To the development team, all I can say is, I'm surprised at you. :-\
This.
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really want to change my vote to no
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really want to change my vote to no
No what?
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really want to change my vote to no
No what?
no to multilogging. im pretty sure we will get it also 8)
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really want to change my vote to no
No what?
no to multilogging. im pretty sure we will get it also 8)
Has an admin said that? If so, that's great news ;D
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really want to change my vote to no
No what?
no to multilogging. im pretty sure we will get it also 8)
Has an admin said that? If so, that's great news ;D
No, something of the sort though.
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really want to change my vote to no
good to see that you joined the bright side :P
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The more and more I see this, it is getting out of hand. Also, it also appears to be worse then any bot situation I have seen in my days/years on rs.
I do think that in the long run, it will definitely be abused, and degrade the morale of the good players. But, it's up to staff to make the final decision on this.
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for what? it's allowed.
I know i'm just showing people how ridiculous the situation actually is.
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
Says the guy who mines rune essence on 5 different accounts. That's not multilogging, that's just straight up cheating.
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
Me too, well at least for those who have 3 little brothers :-\
If i'm correct, we should see this as "Multi Accounts", because Multi Logging should be allowed if you got friends, brothers/sisters etc...
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Can we assume that the people voting yes voted twice on their multilogged account?
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tbh i dont really care bout it, we all have the option to multi log if we wanted, so its not an UNFAIR advantage if we all have the option
i personally play just because i want to have fun, and i dont need competition to have fun :)
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I think it should stay allowed everyone can do it, and if you take it out now people who have played and used it for longer have such a big advantage on players who just started recently.
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
Says the guy who mines rune essence on 5 different accounts. That's not multilogging, that's just straight up cheating.
Olol. I mined on two accounts dip shit. If the staff look I only have two registered accounts under my name. RiiPiiN and Back Pack.
MultiLogging is defined as one person using two accounts to gain an advantage ingame for wealth. Having two siblings play from the same IP isn't multilogging.
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
Says the guy who mines rune essence on 5 different accounts. That's not multilogging, that's just straight up cheating.
Olol. I mined on two accounts dip shit. If the staff look I only have two registered accounts under my name. RiiPiiN and Back Pack.
MultiLogging is defined as one person using two accounts to gain an advantage ingame for wealth. Having two siblings play from the same IP isn't multilogging.
Lets not turn this into a flame war :(
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I think it should remain allowed for many reasons.
Says the guy who mines rune essence on 5 different accounts. That's not multilogging, that's just straight up cheating.
Olol. I mined on two accounts dip shit. If the staff look I only have two registered accounts under my name. RiiPiiN and Back Pack.
MultiLogging is defined as one person using two accounts to gain an advantage ingame for wealth. Having two siblings play from the same IP isn't multilogging.
Lets not turn this into a flame war :(
Should of seen it at the moment yesterday.
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If it wasnt in runescape in 2006, shouldn't be allowed here 8)
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To multi-log.. hmm.. I'm guilty as charged of such a thing.
Now let me tell you, it's HARD! Do you know how ridiculously hard it is to keep two game clients open at the same time AND do a semi-afk-able task? That's just with TWO clients, imagine three or four, that would be nearly improbable on all levels. Not to mention the task each one may be doing! I was just woodcutting, imagine firemaking, runecraft, combat, etc, it's just ridiculously unlikely.
All in all, I say let it stay. If people want to do it, let them, they're the ones who have to suffer with being bogged down by having multiple clients open, and skilling/combat/etc. It's annoying to attempt, and annoying while in progress, and overall I doubt we'll ever seen it being widespread.
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james already said multilogging will be allowed unless your involved with scamming and such.
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It will be illegal once they figure out how to enforce it.
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It will be illegal once they figure out how to enforce it.
Riipiin go check out the other thread, I'm fairly sure Cheshire Cat said today that it will never be illegal... I'll pm you a link when i find it.
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I've multilogged in the past, and it just takes the fun out of the game from my experience. Not just because you have to control multiple accounts at once, but because you miss out on the fun details of the game. You just get so focused on maximizing your resource gathering and money making that you can't enjoy the game, so if you choose the multilog then that's your decision to affect your Runerebels experience. Frankly, playing on 2 accounts simultaneously doesn't require much effort, especially if one is doing an afk skill like fishing/woodcutting, but playing on more than 2 would probably take considerable concentration that just reduces overall game enjoyment.
As for the people who feel that multiloggers have the "unfair" advantage in the economy and hiscores, just know that your hard work has been legitimate and that you didn't need any advantages, whether those advantages are deemed legal or illegal.
So if multilogging is banned, you can rejoice. If multilogging is still allowed, just keep content with your own hard work and don't feel down if others get ahead of you by multilogging.
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I agree with Riipiin. For now, just set the multilogging to 2. 3 is overdoing it.
I mean, we "DO" need the economy running...
But after that, do another poll and we'll sort it out.
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To multi-log.. hmm.. I'm guilty as charged of such a thing.
Now let me tell you, it's HARD! Do you know how ridiculously hard it is to keep two game clients open at the same time AND do a semi-afk-able task? That's just with TWO clients, imagine three or four, that would be nearly improbable on all levels. Not to mention the task each one may be doing! I was just woodcutting, imagine firemaking, runecraft, combat, etc, it's just ridiculously unlikely.
All in all, I say let it stay. If people want to do it, let them, they're the ones who have to suffer with being bogged down by having multiple clients open, and skilling/combat/etc. It's annoying to attempt, and annoying while in progress, and overall I doubt we'll ever seen it being widespread.
Its wide spread in runecrafting, as its the only way to compete
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does anyone even read the forums? go look at what admins say about this
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I think the admins should stop it if ppl get followed by there other accounts for nature running...
Doesn't any admin wanna comment on this?
Too late! They where doing this the first day. I went there to make tiaras, so I witnessed it.
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It will be illegal once they figure out how to enforce it.
Riipiin go check out the other thread, I'm fairly sure Cheshire Cat said today that it will never be illegal... I'll pm you a link when i find it.
Cheshire is simply a pmod. He has no say in it, its all the developers.
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Ban that shit