I agree, but in order to compete I need to do it :/And that's one reason why it should be banned. The top of the RC hiscores are going to all be multi-loggers.
I'd say a good way to log users is not based soley on their IP address. MAC address helps, too, even with proxies usually, unless the user multi proxies or multi masks their addresses. This could be used to detect excessive multi logging and allow for identification and logging for if two people use the same connection on two different computers.doubt many people would put that much effort into logging into two accounts to play a private server
Ooh look another cry baby!Just do everyone a favor and stop posting shit about people who want a better game being crybabies just for postcount.
I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I think 3 accounts should be banned, due to too much income gained and it can make the eco worse, but two accounts wouldn't do too much. I right now just level fishing with a second account while i play on my main, and fishing isn't a ECONOMY GAME CHANGER, I don't think fishing even get's that much money atm.my point. im only messing with people using 3+ accounts who are using on ess. anything else i dont care. i multilog my self but not on ess.
Even though I won't multi-log, I'm not sure I agree that having 2 is any different then having 10. Either you can do it, or it's against the rules.I agree, but if they decide to keep it allowed there should be restrictions such as previously mentioned. I do hope they ban it though.
my point. im only messing with people using 3+ accounts who are using on ess. anything else i dont care. i multilog my self but not on ess.
I see your point, but there was a multi logger who managed nearly 50k in < 24 hours through multilogging on more than 2 accountsmy point. im only messing with people using 3+ accounts who are using on ess. anything else i dont care. i multilog my self but not on ess.
IMO, whether you do 2, 3 or 4, or whatever, why condemn others for what you do? Kind of like telling a thief, I only rob one bank a day, but since you rob two, you should go to prison. ;)
I can see why it might annoy people, but the economy really needs a kickstart for which runes (especially natures) are essential. I hope they let us continue at least until there is lots of gp in the game from alching. Personally, I have an army of 4 runners that I'm using to mine ess and craft runes. If it gets banned, I will just use my main.Yeah, great idea, get the economy started by making it so people can get tons of runes, so they can get tons of gold! Having 10 super rich players while everyone else has much less money is a great idea!
Yeah, great idea, get the economy started by making it so people can get tons of runes, so they can get tons of gold! Having 10 super rich players while everyone else has much less money is a great idea!
I find it hilarious that people only started crying about multi-logging when mining rune essence came into play. When fletching came out nobody (besides me bitching about Tarantola) was crying when people had a second account solely to get more logs, even though a large amount of the money currently in the game came from selling bows to stores.
I find it hilarious that people only started crying about multi-logging when mining rune essence came into play.
(especially when rc came out)Sounds like you're agreeing with me.
I find it hilarious that people only started crying about multi-logging when mining rune essence came into play.(especially when rc came out)Sounds like you're agreeing with me.
Also, if someone multilogs by having lvl 3s follow them around they suck at multi logging.
Also, if someone multilogs by having lvl 3s follow them around they suck at multi logging.
Ban it, Remove it and Kill it.
It was aloud? :oIt still is allowed. Its gotten to the point where its basically the same thing as botting.
well no one told me this lolLogon, run to east varrock bank and watch the lvl 3s run by. Close the door on them also. 8)
Well thats what happens, when people find an advantage they all want to use it unless it gets burned out or patchedPretty sure the staff have an answer to it, just waiting for it. Sooner the better.
And for an advantage like this it wouldn't be a good idea to keep it going imo
I talked to James about this and he said that it will be against the rules as soon as they find a way to enforce it.Well thats what happens, when people find an advantage they all want to use it unless it gets burned out or patchedPretty sure the staff have an answer to it, just waiting for it. Sooner the better.
And for an advantage like this it wouldn't be a good idea to keep it going imo
Just because your too lazy to multi log yourself or not getting as much income as a multi logger doesnt mean you should complain, although having 2 acc's on is not that bad seeing that one account isnt farming and these accounts dont make contact, also as someone said earlier it wasnt looked on as much while people were doing for fletching because you werent fletching
That's exactly my point. Doing it on one extra account isn't going to hurt anyone. I have 2 accounts right now, one is a skilled pure and the other is a PvM main. They do not interact and the point of the second account is to keep me from getting bored. As soon as it goes from this harmless "not getting bored" to full fledged 100% attention on 6 different bots then it's too much. Even 3 accounts is too much in my opinion. I feel that the rules should be like it is on Jagex's game, with a slight exception. Two accounts should be allowed to be accessed by one player at the same time; however, if the accounts are caught interacting there will be punishments.Just because your too lazy to multi log yourself or not getting as much income as a multi logger doesnt mean you should complain, although having 2 acc's on is not that bad seeing that one account isnt farming and these accounts dont make contact, also as someone said earlier it wasnt looked on as much while people were doing for fletching because you werent fletching
more like no one knew people were doing it for fletching.... therefore had nothing to complain about.. although i'm pretty sure people were only using one account to cut logs for main account which isn't as bad as 3, 4, 5, or 6.
basically, multi-logging is botting without the program.
If we're going by what he said isn't all skilling technically botting? :pbasically, multi-logging is botting without the program.
Botting without the program? The program is what makes it botting...
Although I do not like multilogging at all, or have never done it to really have an opinion of it, I agree that using 3 or more accounts is unfair. However, I can side with the people who want to fish while their main is training at the rock crabs or something. I mean, just sitting there fishing when there's no one to talk to...you could really be multitasking. OF course, if you're botting...either ways you better get out.exactly my point, i like to fish and mine at the same time, because both skills are boring AF.
Our staff are talking out solutions\possible rule changes. Hold tight!Thanks Chesire! I hope that it's not removed completely but just limited immensely. Also the poll that was put up has changed from what it was yesterday :0
Botting without the program? The program is what makes it botting...
Just because your too lazy to multi log yourself or not getting as much income as a multi logger doesnt mean you should complain, although having 2 acc's on is not that bad seeing that one account isnt farming and these accounts dont make contact, also as someone said earlier it wasnt looked on as much while people were doing for fletching because you werent fletchingThats not the problem
The only problem that I have with your thoughts are that I have 2 LEGIT accounts, and on one I am going for 99 fishing and I have not bought anything, and probably never will. On a skiller you are mostly providing and hardly consuming whether you're multi logging or not.Just because your too lazy to multi log yourself or not getting as much income as a multi logger doesnt mean you should complain, although having 2 acc's on is not that bad seeing that one account isnt farming and these accounts dont make contact, also as someone said earlier it wasnt looked on as much while people were doing for fletching because you werent fletchingThats not the problem
The problem is more resources are being poured into the economy than there are LEGIT players to use them. An account just to fish or mine on will never buy anything back, only produce.
Multilogging will be allowed but we're limiting it severely. No one will be banned or anything.The only problem that I have with your thoughts are that I have 2 LEGIT accounts, and on one I am going for 99 fishing and I have not bought anything, and probably never will. On a skiller you are mostly providing and hardly consuming whether you're multi logging or not.Just because your too lazy to multi log yourself or not getting as much income as a multi logger doesnt mean you should complain, although having 2 acc's on is not that bad seeing that one account isnt farming and these accounts dont make contact, also as someone said earlier it wasnt looked on as much while people were doing for fletching because you werent fletchingThats not the problem
The problem is more resources are being poured into the economy than there are LEGIT players to use them. An account just to fish or mine on will never buy anything back, only produce.
Now that's what I'm talking about! :DMultilogging will be allowed but we're limiting it severely. No one will be banned or anything.The only problem that I have with your thoughts are that I have 2 LEGIT accounts, and on one I am going for 99 fishing and I have not bought anything, and probably never will. On a skiller you are mostly providing and hardly consuming whether you're multi logging or not.Just because your too lazy to multi log yourself or not getting as much income as a multi logger doesnt mean you should complain, although having 2 acc's on is not that bad seeing that one account isnt farming and these accounts dont make contact, also as someone said earlier it wasnt looked on as much while people were doing for fletching because you werent fletchingThats not the problem
The problem is more resources are being poured into the economy than there are LEGIT players to use them. An account just to fish or mine on will never buy anything back, only produce.
Good to hear, hope its down to two accounts per and only able to do somethings with them.Multilogging will be allowed but we're limiting it severely. No one will be banned or anything.The only problem that I have with your thoughts are that I have 2 LEGIT accounts, and on one I am going for 99 fishing and I have not bought anything, and probably never will. On a skiller you are mostly providing and hardly consuming whether you're multi logging or not.Just because your too lazy to multi log yourself or not getting as much income as a multi logger doesnt mean you should complain, although having 2 acc's on is not that bad seeing that one account isnt farming and these accounts dont make contact, also as someone said earlier it wasnt looked on as much while people were doing for fletching because you werent fletchingThats not the problem
The problem is more resources are being poured into the economy than there are LEGIT players to use them. An account just to fish or mine on will never buy anything back, only produce.
Id rather there only be one account :-\
I don't see the problem in it? It's 2x the work for the person, and improves efficiency.
Why waste time when you can just try a little bit harder on a game you enjoy and get
some things done a bit faster.
Thanks for reading.
I agree with you, but back then I was in grade school and had the time to waste. Now if I want stats I'll do it on my main, but if just need a resource ill do it on an alt. Such as flax, because it gives no stats, but needs to be picked.I don't see the problem in it? It's 2x the work for the person, and improves efficiency.
Why waste time when you can just try a little bit harder on a game you enjoy and get
some things done a bit faster.
Thanks for reading.
It's honestly not twice the work to play on 2 accounts at once, unless you're like picking flax on one and mining on the other. But if you really enjoyed the game, you wouldn't care about efficiency or how fast things are done. And you wouldn't feel like you were wasting time by playing on just one account.
My best moments on rs were when I would take days to level up stats because I had no idea what I was doing, and that was the fun of it all. Now it's mainly tryhard grinding and maximizing efficiency, which just takes the fun and meaning out of the game.
I agree completely with getting rid of multi-logging. As far as being able to catch these people, I think that simply using the report system would be sufficient, it worked in real runescape.A poll was taken, and of course the multi loggers won, as it's nearly 3-4 account per person.
I think it would be interesting to attach a poll to this topic too and see what comes out of it.
The easy abuse of the current multi-logging allowed rule.
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We ignored the poll, we're still doing something about it.Glad to hear!
I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I think 3 accounts should be banned, due to too much income gained and it can make the eco worse, but two accounts wouldn't do too much. I right now just level fishing with a second account while i play on my main, and fishing isn't a ECONOMY GAME CHANGER, I don't think fishing even get's that much money atm.
I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I think 3 accounts should be banned, due to too much income gained and it can make the eco worse, but two accounts wouldn't do too much. I right now just level fishing with a second account while i play on my main, and fishing isn't a ECONOMY GAME CHANGER, I don't think fishing even get's that much money atm.
untill last night when all 4 of my players was stopping you getting yew logs LOL
What's happening is, people are getting on 2-4 accounts, and mining ess, and later trading it to their main account. So in other words, they have a 4x advantage on people who don't multi-log. There are two big problems with multi-logging:
- The multi-loggers can get very rich by selling all the ess they get
- IT'S FREAKING CHEATING!!! Trading between your own accounts has ALWAYS been banned in RS! And for good reason!
Seriously, it's not going to hurt you if you ban multi-logging! All you have to do is check IPs maybe once per day, see if someone is using multiple accounts, then check the trade logs to see if they've been trading each other!
leave it to the player mods to catch people in the act and make proper actions.It's not an unfair advantage because everyone is allowed to do it, thefore only making it an advantage to everyone in the community. Plus some of the admins need it to help players on their admin acc while skilling on their alts.
multi-logging is an advantage. and a unfair advantage at that.
I thought it was against the rules, my bad.leave it to the player mods to catch people in the act and make proper actions.It's not an unfair advantage because everyone is allowed to do it, thefore only making it an advantage to everyone in the community. Plus some of the admins need it to help players on their admin acc while skilling on their alts.
multi-logging is an advantage. and a unfair advantage at that.
I agree on making multi-logging in against the rules.